tehswordninja wrote:It seems you want OEDA to be not only extremely morally grey but also against humanity - a far shot from a "UN" styled faction.
how is OEDA against humanity when they literally protect humanity?
tehswordninja wrote:it is, and even if OEDA is in a super bad position to be taking on the Usurpations, they should at least be defending against them.
they are. if you thought an organization focused purely on defense wasn't defending then well, idk what to tell you. i didn't mention that OEDA defends against attacks because i thought this would be obvious given the purpose of it. maybe i used the wrong words or described incorrectly.
tehswordninja wrote:Instead, you are painting them as an organization who, despite humanity being under threat as a whole - are willingly using other human lives so that OEDA doesn't have to, and even in the face of humanity's potential extinction, are more focused on their own agendas. While it makes sense for there to be a need to keep an eye on non-alien threats, OEDA doesn't seem to be going about that the best way, with them being openly aggressive to CS (through their propaganda) and ignoring the overall alien crisis simply because it is a matter of "how resources are being spent".
i'm painting OEDA as something that's realistically plausible. what military hasn't used human lives like mere expendable resources?
OEDA's agenda lines up with CS's agenda of trying to protect humanity and prevent human extinction. the only reason OEDA is not out on the frontlines is because they don't have the numbers to sustain such operations, that too multiple times or consistently. that doesn't mean that because it's not mentioned, they're not defending against alien attacks or anything, nor does it mean they don't care. they are willing to use the CS because it's a smarter choice than sending a fraction of an already diminished force to get killed. if OEDA ends up losing numbers due to fighting usurpations head on, it affects their ability to defend too because there's less numbers reinforcing and defending. humanity becomes weaker that way. it's not a case of anyone not caring for humanity or ignoring the alien crisis, it's a logistics problem that would literally put OEDA in a risky and bad position if they took on more than they can currently handle. how would you personally handle such a problem if it were up to you?
tehswordninja wrote:Halo is a good source of human factions not acting in humanity's interest during an alien invasion. The Insurgectionists are various groups of rebels and terrorists who are opposed to the UNSC/UEG, and during the war against the Covenant some of these groups continued fighting against the UNSC - a very small amount even tried to ally with the aliens. However, the majority of these groups either allied with the UNSC or at least fought against the Covenant instead of their fellow humans. Many returned to fighting the UNSC after the fall of the Covenant, however.
i used humanity from destiny as the main basis for OEDA with UNSC being second. this is because i found more parallels between destiny and PB2 which made it easier to work the faction into the lore. humanity there is severely limited in numbers and their only fighting force is so limited that they can't freely go out and wage large scale offensive operations, they have to send small fireteams in because logistically it's not wise to focus more on offense and to send larger contingents of soldiers into hostile territory. this is in the middle of multiple dangerous alien species running around that have each all shown to be major extinction-level threats to humanity. OEDA is essentially this in a nutshell; they're organized but they're by no means strong enough to be able to offensively fend off an overwhelming alien force. they're at a numbers, logistical, and technological disadvantage to usurpations. why risk lives of OEDA soldiers and ultimately wear down OEDA's ability to defend humanity when their advantage is literally only at places they've gathered up in?
tehswordninja wrote:Likewise, I think it makes sense for a low number of factions to be supportive, or at least not hostile to, the Usurpations. I don't think it makes sense for OEDA to be that faction. I could see a "terrorist" or whatever kind of faction using stuff like the Scavenger Shotgun and the AV-135 filling this niche, however.
i think you misunderstood OEDA's preferred avoidance of usurpations for supporting them which is entirely false and makes zero sense. the avoidance is only in regards to conducting offensive operations and strikes against usurpation forces. there's only one alien race OEDA is "neutral" to in its lore but it's not in game so it's not relevant. there is also a terrorist faction i made that fills said niche that OEDA opposes but again, it's not in game so no point bringing it up.