PB Lore exposed.

[Konquer]

Plazma Burst is a great 2d side-scroll game. But what's inside the lore is even better.

Lets start off with something easy , shall we? Well , somewhere in PB2 Series we were told that the main hero just wants to get back in time becouse his whole race was killed. Who killed them , we weren't told. In my theory , Civil Security was working with Aliens. But why? Well , we don't know who invented Sabers. Who do you think? Every battlesuit in PB2 got sabers , right? But who invented battlesuits and therefore sabers? It was Marine's Race. CS wanted battlesuits , along with Aliens , but MR refused giving them BS , why i don't know , so CS connected with Aliens , made some stuff and then , something happend. Marine came. Well , when he was killing Aliens and CS in Plazma Burst , he set off war with them. Aliens were thinking that it's human , and humans that is alien. But whats my proof to CS and Aliens Connection? Lets take a look in "inventions list"
Marine Race:
-Battlesuits (presumably)
-C-type guns (presumably)
CS:
-CS type guns
-Battlesuits modifications (presumably)
-Grenades
-Defib
-Barrels (presumably)
-Acid (presumably)
Aliens:
-Alien guns
-Battlesuits modifications (presumably)
-Teleportation
-Robots (presumably)
-Ships (presumably)
-USE buttons (presumably)
-Elevators/Doors (presumably)
-Some CS-Type guns (presumably , in work with CS of course)
Unknown:
-Teleportation nades

Well , my theory explains Tele-nades , another proof: The Omega Robot. He is the clue to that aliens made robots +in pb2 they were guarding a level with them. But what makes him so special. Hound Walkers. I dont need to explain this , right? Well , humans was having Grubs near them in PB , so Aliens gifted them Miner-Robots and the other gray-grubs. So , we get how Marine Race got destroyed , by who and others. What do you think of my theory? Well , i got one more theory. That marine-race is evolution of Human's , but im gonna tell it other time. The end.

PS. PB2 wiki says that Marine is a human , but i can hardly belive it , becouse sometimes when he falls into lasers i hear aliens pain voice

Another PS. Proof on MR made BS: In Time Travel shop you can buy BS upgrades

[shadowstorm122]

Ermm... wat?
Marines race is human(no evolution) but hes from the future(5-100 years im guessing) and hes a anti-hero like robin hood basically...
the CS actually attack the usurpers on one level so they not allies
and the CS weapons what Usurpers have were probably stolen from the CS
USE button is human...
so are doors and elevators...
Robot Omega was with the falkoks
and the androids used to be CS but they became sentinent
and that alien voice you hear is probably a glitch...

[Dark Reaver]

On Level 37 or 38 there's a dialogue in which Proxy says that two volunteers armed to the teeth were sent back to the past to fix the humanity's mistakes.

It's obvious that the two 'volunteers' were the Marine and Noir Lime, as it was their goal from the beginning. You can argue that the Marine doesn't have a top-notch equipment in either PB1 or PB2, but the Time Warp and Kinetic Module are excellent tools.

Proxy was just a random person who wanted to escape from the CS-Base, and has nothing to do with Correction Nine.
He may knows about the 2 volunteers and C9 from the news, but I don't think she's anything special.

Correction Nine, in my opinion is a faction / corporation of scientists who were working secretly on many different projects, but surprisingly after the aliens' invasion only a few of them were uncovered.
For example, Proxy knows about the two volunteers, yet she doesn't know who the Marine's working for. It's strange, as he has the Correction Nine's logo on his armour.

There are the things which were surely manufactured by C9:
1)Blue Barrels
2)Grenades
3)Several weapons

1) Strangely, the blue barrels are quite common in the campaign, especially on the later levels. That's perhaps because those areas were owned by C9 before, but we have no information about what happened to them.

Maybe the corporations' members were exterminated by the Aliens or CS, maybe they were evacuated, it's still a mystery.

2) Such grenades are never used by CS Soldiers, opposed to the ones the Grenade Launcher fires, even though they're very common in the campaign. It's possible those grenades are viewed as 'unknown technology' by the Civil Security and therefore don't know how to use them (which, to be fair, seems to be weird considering it's just a grenade).

3) The most interesting part - those weapons are only used by the Marine, Noir Lime and by the Falkonian race.
It makes sense regarding the Hero and Noir, but what about the Falkoks?
It's possible that C9 had influence on other planets like the one in PB1, but it still seems strange that they're so common among them.

What's more, only the Raygun and the Assault Rifle are used by them, which could mean they 'stole' the technology and began mass-producing them to replace their former weapons with more reliable ones. However if that's true, I have no idea about what they were using before. Maybe ordinary Alien Rifles?

And there are the thing which could be manufactured by them:
1) The Androids
2) The Drones
3) The Corvettes

I think all of them were C9's work, although most of you will disagree.

Correction Nine was a very significant corporation and so it had to protect its work from different groups of interest. We don't know if C9 had members who weren't scientists (Hero and Noir were volunteers) or not, but the latter is easier to believe as we don't see any 'living' soldiers which isn't an alien or working for CS.

Except for the Androids / Drones / Corvettes. C9 must have had some kind of security-system for the reason above - and creating mechanical 'guards' are excellent for that purpose. No information could leak out thought them. Can't
be bribed with anything. Are generally more effective than human soldiers. And won't betray their creators*

*C9 was working on a time machine, and a corporation which is able to do such things can effortlessly create a surefire defence against your average cyberpunk, so their Androids won't be hacked that easily.

Sadly, when they opened the first experimental portal to the 'Another World', they were facing a more technologically advanced enemy than the average hacker.

Possibly, the aliens were the ones who caused the Androids, Drones and Corvettes to malfunction, leaving C9 vulnerable to basically anything. It would explain why the androids are using Alien Shotguns so often.

If you see, it's interesting that the Usurpers can use the CS weapons while you won't find a single CS soldier using theirs.

Sorry for the wall of text, I could've written a lot more but it's already very long for a single post.
I left a few things intentionally, so you won't feel like you have to read a complete book

[Konquer]

the CS actually attack the usurpers on one level so they not allies

Did you read my whole text? I said that (in my theory) Marine came , and when CS send raport about being attacked by strange being , think about it. They thought they killed everyone.

2) Such grenades are never used by CS Soldiers, opposed to the ones the Grenade Launcher fires, even though they're very common in the campaign. It's possible those grenades are viewed as 'unknown technology' by the Civil Security and therefore don't know how to use them (which, to be fair, seems to be weird considering it's just a grenade).

Then why on level 1 there's a crate just near thier outpost , filled with them?

3) The most interesting part - those weapons are only used by the Marine, Noir Lime and by the Falkonian race.
It makes sense regarding the Hero and Noir, but what about the Falkoks?
It's possible that C9 had influence on other planets like the one in PB1, but it still seems strange that they're so common among them.

Mayby Falkoks were working on C9? Think for a secound. Or , mayby they killed them?
Forgot to include my theory to my theory (wtf?) so, the clones we got on some levels (anyone remembers account deleting? I lost my 42 level progress) are CS in disguise , becouse how CS/Aliens could make cloning machine? I disagree that C9 made it , becouse (i think) they would use it to create an army of soliders or scientists. And they would be alive.

Sorry for the wall of text, I could've written a lot more but it's already very long for a single post.
I left a few things intentionally, so you won't feel like you have to read a complete book

Dude , it's lore things , wall of text must be here!

PS.

Ermm... wat?
Marines race is human(no evolution) but hes from the future(5-100 years im guessing)

So , 100 years , well if we got lasers and other things 100 years should be enough for a evolution AND! You saw how many plazma bullets he got during these 2 campaings? Well , we weren't told wich of plazma's they shoot (its 3 of them) but there's plazma that creates stars , so , shouldn't that be enough to evolution? I dont think human would survived headshot (even in hard battlesuit) from CS rocket launcher (shock damage and others.) +For the sake of god , look at him on starting screen , if you think humans got faces like that , then you are high i think

[shadowstorm122]

Ermm... wat?
Marines race is human(no evolution) but hes from the future(5-100 years im guessing)

So , 100 years , well if we got lasers and other things 100 years should be enough for a evolution AND! You saw how many plazma bullets he got during these 2 campaings? Well , we weren't told wich of plazma's they shoot (its 3 of them) but there's plazma that creates stars , so , shouldn't that be enough to evolution? I dont think human would survived headshot (even in hard battlesuit) from CS rocket launcher (shock damage and others.) +For the sake of god , look at him on starting screen , if you think humans got faces like that , then you are high i think

M8 the human race today hasn't evolved for over 1-2 million years and those rounds he took were because he was wearing advanced armour and he has the exact same head size as them moon soldiers in pb fttp just wearing a balaclava and his face is like that on the starting screen because of the animator who made it... and im not high...

[Dark Reaver]

The crate with grenades near the CS outpost could be there for transporting purposes so the Civil Security's scientists could experiment with them.

I don't think the Falkoks would work on C9; yeah, they had quite advanced technology like the Robot Omega and basically the whole Falkonian armour, but Proxy saying that the first experimental portal is the biggest mistake humanity made is a clue that they couldn't be aliens (C9).

The cloning part always bothered me. If they're CS Soldiers, why in the hell would they kill their own allies? Eric confirmed the clones are CS members, but it just sounds illogical to me.

I think the cloning machine is made by C9 too, but for some reason they couldn't successfully utilize it.
Maybe the Marine already knew about that machine, because he didn't attack his clone early on.
If he had no clue about it, I'm sure he would've been like 'Wtf is going on?' as seeing someone completely same to you is a bit suspicious.

If C9 didn't create more soldiers / scientists / anything with it, I think that's because the machine was still in development or its further operations would be expensive raw material / money-wise.

Heck, even the CS wasn't able to create more than four ones.

[KARL SERG]

When I playe PB:FttP for the first time, I too thought that the Marine and Humans we Members of different Races with similar Blood. This was mainly due to his Mask.

PB2, however, uncovered the fact that the Marine is a Human almost for sure, since he speaks the same Language as Proxy and Noir Lime, along with emitting Human Sounds and a few other Things.

The Story abut the Falkonian Weapons is a bit complicated IMO... I assume that maybe the Falkoks themselves may be C9 due to the fact that both of these Organisations are shrouded in Mistery. the Human Rebels on the Moon may have caught Wind of the Weapons, as we observed that they weild unupgraded Versions of them, while the Falkoks possess upgraded Versions.

When I first reached Level 25 (the one with the Ghosts) I wondered if Eric didn't actually really want to mean that they are REAL Gjosts (or at least Souls of the fallen), as the 2 Corpses of Usurpers in that Level may have suggested. I then understood that they were Humans with An Armor which contains a Dark Liquid (rendering them invisible) that mixed with Blood gave that Purple-Brown Liquid. Their Taunts might as well have been Part of the Suits, so they would terrify whatever Enemy might be around them even more.


Anyway, one of the Things that came to my Mind would be this:
Eric may have willingly refused to add a more Detailed Story to the PB Series so its Players would come up with Theories themselves. I suspect that Eric may already have a Story to reveal in his future PB2-related Projects, but he may add some of our theories to his Story as well if he considers them worthy enough to be Part of it.

[tehswordninja]

Here's the thing: I don't think they were ever sent back in time. If they were, Proxy wouldn't know, because the Marine and Noir would be in the past. The only point that they went back in time was at the end of level 41 from what I can tell.

This explains why you spawn in with the same pistol as the human soldiers in pb1, and why correction nine tech is around.

[KARL SERG]

Here's the thing: I don't think they were ever sent back in time. If they were, Proxy wouldn't know, because the Marine and Noir would be in the past. The only point that they went back in time was at the end of level 41 from what I can tell.

This explains why you spawn in with the same pistol as the human soldiers in pb1, and why correction nine tech is around.

Maybe Proxy heard News from a CS Guard about the Marine coming from the Future.
Also, the Marine's Weapons might have been around since way before the Sientists which made the Time Machine used it on Noir Lime and the Marine.

[Konquer]

DR>I don't think the Falkoks would work on C9; yeah, they had quite advanced technology like the Robot Omega and basically the whole Falkonian armour, but Proxy saying that the first experimental portal is the biggest mistake humanity made is a clue that they couldn't be aliens (C9).

Me>But , mayby the humanity made only portal? think about it (copyright valve)

DR>The cloning part always bothered me. If they're CS Soldiers, why in the hell would they kill their own allies? Eric confirmed the clones are CS members, but it just sounds illogical to me.

Me>Didn't you played DayZ? Look , a simple trap that made me god in this game: You need 3 persons and 1 note: 1 bounded , 1 guarding him with a pistol (no ammo ofc) and one behind corner. It works. Look , there comes a player , saves the "hostage" , gives him a weapon , hostage kills the one that is walking from corner , when he speaks "vasily , come here" and this dude thinks that you are his friend. When he searches the "corner guy" , in the note there is written "GOT YOU! Turn around" and hostage got an AK-47 sticked to his head , then gunshot and you got stuff.

DR>I think the cloning machine is made by C9 too, but for some reason they couldn't successfully utilize it.
Maybe the Marine already knew about that machine, because he didn't attack his clone early on.
If he had no clue about it, I'm sure he would've been like 'Wtf is going on?' as seeing someone completely same to you is a bit suspicious.

Me>Mayby he was in need of friend?? Think about it , who is the best of yourself? And , he was alone , killing tons of beings

DR>If C9 didn't create more soldiers / scientists / anything with it, I think that's because the machine was still in development or its further operations would be expensive raw material / money-wise.

Me>But wouldn't they clone material/money? Think for a sec.

DR>Heck, even the CS wasn't able to create more than four ones.

Me>Four battlesuits. It was all a teleport. This is my theory

[tehswordninja]

Here's the thing: I don't think they were ever sent back in time. If they were, Proxy wouldn't know, because the Marine and Noir would be in the past. The only point that they went back in time was at the end of level 41 from what I can tell.

This explains why you spawn in with the same pistol as the human soldiers in pb1, and why correction nine tech is around.

Maybe Proxy heard News from a CS Guard about the Marine coming from the Future.
Also, the Marine's Weapons might have been around since way before the Sientists which made the Time Machine used it on Noir Lime and the Marine.

If they went back in time, no one would know, because well, they'd be back in time where no one knew that two soldiers had been sent back in time.

[Konquer]

I think he meant that Marine is coming becouse of CS-Radio

[tehswordninja]

Plazma Burst is a great 2d side-scroll game. But what's inside the lore is even better.

Lets start off with something easy , shall we? Well , somewhere in PB2 Series we were told that the main hero just wants to get back in time becouse his whole race was killed. Who killed them , we weren't told.

Pretty sure we weren't told if the whole race was killed, I think it was to go back in time and make it so the Correction Nine guys don't open up the portal and the Usurpations come.

[size=150] In my theory , Civil Security was working with Aliens. But why? Well , we don't know who invented Sabers. Who do you think? Every battlesuit in PB2 got sabers , right? But who invented battlesuits and therefore sabers? It was Marine's Race. CS wanted battlesuits , along with Aliens , but MR refused giving them BS , why i don't know , so CS connected with Aliens , made some stuff and then , something happend.

What. The Civil Security clearly don't work with the aliens, that's just obvious. And it's likely the tech that made the PSI blades came from Robot Omega, which was made by the Falkoks (so falkoks likely made PSI blades, then other factions picked them up and mass produced them)
And what stuff did they make anyways? And the marine's "race" is human. It's likely the Marine is apart of Correction Nine.

[b][size=150] Marine came. Well , when he was killing Aliens and CS in Plazma Burst , he set off war with them. Aliens were thinking that it's human , and humans that is alien. But whats my proof to CS and Aliens Connection? Lets take a look in "inventions list"
[b]Marine Race:
-Battlesuits (presumably)
-C-type guns (presumably)
CS:
-CS type guns
-Battlesuits modifications (presumably)
-Grenades
-Defib
-Barrels (presumably)
-Acid (presumably)
Aliens:
-Alien guns
-Battlesuits modifications (presumably)
-Teleportation
-Robots (presumably)
-Ships (presumably)
-USE buttons (presumably)
-Elevators/Doors (presumably)
-Some CS-Type guns (presumably , in work with CS of course)
Unknown:
-Teleportation nades

Anything with CS in the name is manufactured by the Civil Security, Drones are used but not manufactured by Drones. Anything with the C prefix is Correction Nine. The alien weapons are manufactured by Usurpations, and the ray rifle is made by an unknown race of aliens on Mars.

[b][size=150]Well , my theory explains Tele-nades , another proof: The Omega Robot. He is the clue to that aliens made robots +in pb2 they were guarding a level with them. But what makes him so special. Hound Walkers. I dont need to explain this , right? Well , humans was having Grubs near them in PB , so Aliens gifted them Miner-Robots and the other gray-grubs. So , we get how Marine Race got destroyed , by who and others. What do you think of my theory? Well , i got one more theory. That marine-race is evolution of Human's , but im gonna tell it other time. The end.

PS. PB2 wiki says that Marine is a human , but i can hardly belive it , becouse sometimes when he falls into lasers i hear aliens pain voice

Another PS. Proof on MR made BS: In Time Travel shop you can buy BS upgrades

How does it explain tele nades? Those are just CS tech. Just because the Falkoks had a single robot does not even in the slightest mean that every robot is alien made, that's like looking at the M16 and then saying every Assault Rifle is made by America.
Where did you pull the part that the humans got miner robots and stuff from aliens? That doesn't make any sense nor has any proof. Grubs of both kinds are most likely Human Soldier tech anyways.
And the Marine is just a normal human inside of a suit. What do you mean BS upgrades btw?
The alien sound is just a game bug.

[KARL SERG]

If they went back in time, no one would know, because well, they'd be back in time where no one knew that two soldiers had been sent back in time.

What if some CS Members picked up a Part of their Communications on the Moon and deduced that they really come from the Future?

Of course, all of this would only be possible if the Theory which says that diffirent Thing from different Time Periods would not alter Reality to the point where the Reality would follow a different Course in Time.

[noune]

So here is what I think the Correct Nine and their is:

A Weapons and Technology corporation who gave both sides (CS, Usurpations, and etc.) weapons, and vehicles. However, I believe that they gave each side different weapons and such, but didn't give them the same weapons, as an experiment of sorts, and they let both sides upgrade and develop their own kinds of weapons. Soon, the sides figured out they were being played with, so they attacked the Correct Nine, unaware that they were after the same goal. They destroy most of Correct Nine, but both sides think that the other wants to kill them (What with the whole being armed and dangerous) so they attack each other, resulting in the beginning of the war. The remnants of Correct Nine, realizing what they had just started, use their technology to send too guys (Noir Lime and the Marine) back in time to stop the war before it begins. However they get separated, and are delayed in their attempts to stop the war (with the critical wounding of Noir Lime also causing a sever in their plans). The war begins, and while Hero leaves Noir Lime to try to somehow stop the war, Noir Lime tries to recover his wounds, and eventually meets up with Hero and his new found ally:Proxy, a CS Escapee who has no idea what is going on but is helping them because it means a way out. Together they get to the Time Machine and go back to the past, to try to solve everything.

[tehswordninja]

So here is what I think the Correct Nine and their is:

A Weapons and Technology corporation who gave both sides (CS, Usurpations, and etc.) weapons, and vehicles. However, I believe that they gave each side different weapons and such, but didn't give them the same weapons, as an experiment of sorts, and they let both sides upgrade and develop their own kinds of weapons. Soon, the sides figured out they were being played with, so they attacked the Correct Nine, unaware that they were after the same goal. They destroy most of Correct Nine, but both sides think that the other wants to kill them (What with the whole being armed and dangerous) so they attack each other, resulting in the beginning of the war. The remnants of Correct Nine, realizing what they had just started, use their technology to send too guys (Noir Lime and the Marine) back in time to stop the war before it begins. However they get separated, and are delayed in their attempts to stop the war (with the critical wounding of Noir Lime also causing a sever in their plans). The war begins, and while Hero leaves Noir Lime to try to somehow stop the war, Noir Lime tries to recover his wounds, and eventually meets up with Hero and his new found ally:Proxy, a CS Escapee who has no idea what is going on but is helping them because it means a way out. Together they get to the Time Machine and go back to the past, to try to solve everything.

The Usurpations weren't given C9 weapons. Any human weapons they have they took after invading Earth.
Correction Nine wouldn't make an experiment out of an Alien invasion that could kill millions of people.
The Usurpations are invading Earth, not attacking C9. That's why they shoot CS.
The rest I do agree with you though.

[Tortoise]

So here is what I think the Correct Nine and their is:

A Weapons and Technology corporation who gave both sides (CS, Usurpations, and etc.) weapons, and vehicles. However, I believe that they gave each side different weapons and such, but didn't give them the same weapons, as an experiment of sorts, and they let both sides upgrade and develop their own kinds of weapons. Soon, the sides figured out they were being played with, so they attacked the Correct Nine, unaware that they were after the same goal. They destroy most of Correct Nine, but both sides think that the other wants to kill them (What with the whole being armed and dangerous) so they attack each other, resulting in the beginning of the war. The remnants of Correct Nine, realizing what they had just started, use their technology to send too guys (Noir Lime and the Marine) back in time to stop the war before it begins. However they get separated, and are delayed in their attempts to stop the war (with the critical wounding of Noir Lime also causing a sever in their plans). The war begins, and while Hero leaves Noir Lime to try to somehow stop the war, Noir Lime tries to recover his wounds, and eventually meets up with Hero and his new found ally:Proxy, a CS Escapee who has no idea what is going on but is helping them because it means a way out. Together they get to the Time Machine and go back to the past, to try to solve everything.

The Usurpations weren't given C9 weapons. Any human weapons they have they took after invading Earth.
Correction Nine wouldn't make an experiment out of an Alien invasion that could kill millions of people.
The Usurpations are invading Earth, not attacking C9. That's why they shoot CS.
The rest I do agree with you though.

My theories on Corrective 9, the Marine and Noir Lime

It may be possible that Corrective 9 is some kind of rogue scientific organisation or perhaps even a secret branch of the human military (explaining why he is called "Marine"). Both theories could explain why the Marine and Noir Lime have more advanced equipment than most of CS, as well as why CS might be attacking them despite the fact that they are (seemingly) human.

We don't really know how the Marine's race got wiped out, or what race that was. All we know for sure is that they look human. It could be that Corrective 9 are a group of humans that have been somehow "enhanced". It would explain the slow time ability (reaction time or whatever that is), and maybe even the telekinesis. And lets not forget how much the Marine has been shot at over the years. Now that I think of it, I cannot remember him ever eating, sleeping or drinking. And that not even mentioning his apparent combat skills.

If a crate full of Corrective 9 weapons can be found (apparently for CS research purposes) then it is more than likely that the group itself is still around. That said, they could have been wiped out by this time, and the crate is just full of the spoils of war. Perhaps Corrective 9 was part of the military, and the crate was just there for storage.

If Corrective 9 was already destroyed, then it would back up the theory that they never really went back in time until the end of PB2. Their objective could be to save the entire human race, save everyone or just ensure the survival or Corrective 9.

Corrective 9 may even be affiliated with the Falkonians. It would make sense, since both groups have advanced equipment and are not really explained much.

It may even make sense to say that Noir Lime and the Marine are Falkonians. "Falkok" may be simply a term used to describe "enhanced" humans. Falkoks are obviously superior soldiers in comparison to most human enemies. We never see what falkonians look like under armor, and we can hardly see what most people in PB2 look like under armor. Falkoks are the first kind of "aliens" encountered in PB1 so it would make sense to think that Corrective 9 is located in the same area. Falkoks are also know to use plazma weaponry, like the Marine does.

Its far fetched, but possible, given what little we know.

I could go on (I probably wrote more here than I needed to), but this is all just speculation so correct me if you think I am wrong on any of this.