[APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

[APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 20 September 2020, 23:30

- To the best of my knowledge, the following map fits all requirements to be approved: YES
- The following map contains no unfair hidden features: YES
- The following map contains nothing against the PB2 Code of Conduct: YES
- I have read and understand fully the Required Reading for posting a Map Approval Request: YES
- I have read and understand fully the Map Approval Rules: YES

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- Map Name: rw
- Map ID: Jerry--rw
- Link to Map Page: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/?s=9&a=&m= ... &id=820196
- Link to Map Demo: https://www.plazmaburst2.com/?s=2&map=jerry--rw

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- Give a brief description of the map: Map is a 4v4

Each player has 150 HP also Supports DM , COOP and TDM
- Why you think the map deserves to be approved: because this map is clean and perfect and hope it gets approved i will keep the work after this gets approved i never had approved map btw so i hope this gets approved soon

- Any other comments: No
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Zibuya » 21 September 2020, 00:01

"... and if this didn't get approved i will just give up on everything in pb2 because i never had approved map before and my level developer rank is stuck on 50 now until i approve this map" In my opinion and most likely for others, this answer is just miserable. If making a topic for approvement request, you rather make it more decent and well behaved. There's no need to give up on everything just because you seem to be (imo) a little bit obsessed with the LDr (including this game). Sure, i do care about LDr either, however you should be more specific and if so, have more decent answers.

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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 21 September 2020, 00:37

You don't know the meaning of trying over 5 years to get approved map
also what is your opinion about the map?
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Zibuya » 21 September 2020, 01:00

If you would work for atleast 5 years on maps for approvement, you would have alot of maps approved. If you also practiced so long, then you would know that you have to wait atleast 1 month to create a new active topic about the newest map of yours your planning to get approved. Yet at the same time, you would have to make it more decent. By that i mean, that you have to orientate what exactly your working on. I also cant tell my opinion about your map since i got sick few days ago (on my phone for now so i cant test the gameplay of it). However, comparing this recent map with other maps made for approvement, i rather say its made decent (with that i mean only the preview, title, etc. yet).

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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Build » 21 September 2020, 10:44

Imo this is like yizhe-hillmp that didn't get approved but more cramped.

It is not approval worthy either, The amount of covers in the map makes the gameplay boring. Also not a fan of the sky color, Not matching to the bg color at the top. (Apologies if this is harsh for you)

Just a reminder that you won't get 5+ ldr once you get a map approved when you're at the peak of 50 ldr

Care about your maps dude, Not your ldr
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby yizhe » 21 September 2020, 11:33

i guess hillmp has made it mainstream for tunnels and ground BG to be part of hillmp XD

That aside, the feedbacks from me has been sent to you in PB2 discord #maps. Do take a read and ponder upon it.
Unlike Hillmp, RW does not have much access to the underground or any sound that indicate the enemy position (i.e. teleporters, water, doors, etc) and it may cause a circular cat and mouse game.

On top of that, I supposed the reason for the increase in covers to your map is because of Line Of Sight?
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 21 September 2020, 13:58

The HEX color of the sky is okay it's not too bright it's not too dark
Making less cover will make spamming is easy and so many people complain about less cover
making a lot of cover makes game play boring? i don't think so cover makes game play boring but it reduces the amount of deaths
for ldr thing when i did hit 50 it was saying you won't get 50+ until you get an approved map.
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Girl_Power » 21 September 2020, 15:54

Jerry my dude stop worrying about LDr! Who cares if you're stuck at 50? Everyone knows you are a great map maker and you don't need an approved map to prove it. The greatest map makers do it for the entertainment, not for the fame.
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Stryde » 21 September 2020, 23:41

Jerry--rw (1st playtest)
- Weird background combination https://prnt.sc/uleq1a https://prnt.sc/uleqq7
- No invisible door in AG https://prnt.sc/uleqdq
- Map has bad player movement https://prnt.sc/uleqwc https://prnt.sc/ulesr3
- Sky too yellow
- Window not symmetrical in base https://prnt.sc/uler63
- Grass within base as well https://prnt.sc/uler63
- AG regions are too large
- Poor wall validation and overlapping, as well as background overlapping https://prnt.sc/ulerzb
- Map uses decoration lights as well as lights via light tool, and because of this, some areas on map lack realistic shadows
- Decoration within the wall https://prnt.sc/ulesm5

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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 22 September 2020, 00:41

New Update :-

Sky is more darker now
Invisible door for AG with smaller pusher area
Fixed overlapping walls and background
Windows can't fit in base so i made a window by background , because decoration size is bigger than 4 panels
Changed grass in base area
Fixed bad player movement
Fixed decoration within the wall
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Stryde » 29 September 2020, 17:18

Map is separate into two areas (top layer above ground and bottom layer underground). There is no way to go between these two layers unless on side of map which isn't good for movement.
Player movement is also constricted in some areas.
Sky textures and background textures still look unnatural in PB2
Check back from first playtest feedback as well

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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 30 September 2020, 14:00

Fixed issues and added new stuff with more clean player movement...
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Kiriakos Gr96 » 5 October 2020, 20:12

3rd playtest


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The wall where the antigravite is make it stripe instead of sand it will look better.


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Improve the overlaps here.


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Make the roof here be not a strait line.


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Extend the walls here so players dont fall down to the map.
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 6 October 2020, 12:03

Everything is fixed even shadows on top
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Stryde » 9 October 2020, 17:26

Jerry--rw (4th playtest)
- Remove sand texture in the middle area and align the background basic panel to the pattern (40px by 40px for 1 panel) https://prnt.sc/uw97bm
(red outline = basic bg panel outline)
- Make sky a darker hue to contrast well with background https://prnt.sc/uw97tk
- No elevator panel lining but yet there is in other parts of map https://prnt.sc/uw97zn
- Reduce the power on your gravitators OR shrink the gravitator region
- Increase player mobility in lower part of map by moving this wall forward by 30-40px https://prnt.sc/uw99c6

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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 9 October 2020, 20:12

Updated and fixed all issues
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Stryde » 14 October 2020, 19:40

Jerry--rw (5th and final playtest)
- Improve lighting/shadows here https://prnt.sc/uza5da
- Side gravitators are still weak, extend the pusher height to fix this issue
- I can spray and control underground mid https://prnt.sc/uza5da
- abusive line of sight to camp either underground mid or top mid https://prnt.sc/uza6yd
- campspot 2 https://prnt.sc/uza8im https://prnt.sc/uza95u

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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 14 October 2020, 20:39

alright i fixed all spray areas
but underground there is some areas have head bump thing if i try to fix it this will get back spray thing
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Re: [APPROVAL REQUEST] Jerry--rw

Postby Jerry- » 30 October 2020, 00:25

The map has been updated
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