Exactly how trash is PB2? Lets Find out.

[jdc55]

Ever play PB2 and wonder to yourself, how trash is this game? I mean, its one of a kind. But that doesn't make it good. At all. I think we all know this game is pretty trash. But how trash? Mind if I jot down some details?

1. Have you ever been in a game and shot someone, and they took absolutely 0 damage? That happens to me 65% of the time I play. No joke.

2. Why exactly does this game have ping errors? When we get them, we pause mid-game without any consent, which you are kill-able in mid pause/ping error. I don't think any games has that?

3. Have you ever just be playing, minding your own business, and someone kills you, but then you have to look for a weapon ON THE GROUND, but you get killed in the process of finding a weapon cause you're unarmed?

4. It's simple.. The game takes no skill.. Period.

5. Boy I tell you. These servers are god o mighty awful. Literally everyone lags like an ass on this game. There has never been so many amount of laggers in one game in Flash game history. I've never seen so many teleport and spike like that.

6. Laggers have more advantage over non-laggers? Doesn't make any sense. A pro lagger can rek a Pro non-lagger anyday on this game. ALL YOU NEED IS AVERAGE INTERNET TO BE PRO ON THIS GAME. Make sure your ping is over 150. Instant 150k.

7. Everybody left this game for one reason. I think you know that reason. I don't have to say it..

8. This game has been alive for almost 6 years? And it's still in beta? What? 6 Years and we still don't have a sequel? What?

9. One developer. I thought any developer was smart enough to hire an actual team.. Takes Eric 2 years, possibly 3 years to make a trashcan 2D Flash game remake? What?

10. He messed up everything. Let me go down the line
The servers
The PPP System
The Community
Some of our precious old accounts were deleted
The Cali server
Competitiveness
Casual Fun

How many years did it take to screw over one whole community? Right.. 6 Years I'm guessing? Tragic. And look at us. Still being Eric's little peasant stalking his twitter hoping he would say more than the games "16%" done. He told us he made new weapons and new grenades.. Did he show us? No... He didn't show the community who devoted all their time to his one little trashcan game for 6 years? I compare Eric to a Call Of Duty developer. Why? Cause technically they both have the brains of a P.. Not trying to be mean. Just stating the obvious.

PS. I hope the crybaby staff lets me state my own opinion in a harmless way even though it makes Eric look like the real kind of developer he is.

[Hikarikaze]

So much ignorance that I want to laugh

1. As a matter in fact, I have. Warframe and Destiny both are prominent examples where cases like this happen. Every multiplayer game has cases like this. The former is purely mechanics and the latter is unavoidable

2. And this is where your ignorance starts to show. Ping errors are entirely dependent on your connection and the servers. The game has nothing to do with this but I see you don't do research at all

Every multiplayer game has this problem. Let's continue to cherry pick and rant as much as we can about some flash game online.

3. Oh look, it's not like this problem was ever solved recently

4. Being ignorant takes no skill. Period.

5. The amount of QQ is unreal. Have you met every single person in this game? At least you admit that even you lag terribly so you yourself can't even talk and complain. I also don't see you offering any sort of help to mitigate the problem.

6. People with higher ping teleport. People with lower ping don't. Guess who gets killed? The one that's easier to hit aka the one with lower ping. It makes perfect sense if you actually bothered to know.

It's contradictory to advise having over 150 ping when people love to measure skill with PP which can only be earned with a ping below 180. Do you actually hear yourself utter this nonsense once in a while?

9. Can you remake a game from scratch as a hobby with other important priorities in a region where tensions are running high in under 3 years? Chances are you can't even write "hello world" in a programming language in under 2 minutes because you spend that time ranting about the progress speed of others doing the same thing

One person spending 3 years on a game where focus isn't even 100% directed to this project is a normal pace

7. Pitiful generalization to pitifully back up a pitiful rant

8. The game is complete, only MP is in beta. This is literally told to you. Another demonstration of ignorance for me to laugh at

I compare Eric to a Call Of Duty developer. Why? Cause technically they both have the brains of a P.. Not trying to be mean. Just stating the obvious.

PS. I hope the crybaby staff lets me state my own opinion in a harmless way even though it makes Eric look like the real kind of developer he is.

Yes, let's compare one person to one of three large scale developer studios because there's totally a lot of similarities. I compare Coolbuddy to EA. Why? Cause technically both have god awful servers that make little kids and grown adults both cry. Let's compare a dying website to a massive publisher. After that, let's talk about how an ant and a human are the same because both are living. That'll totally help the "argument"

Also the amount of hypocrisy is staggering. You call the staff crybabies when you're crying about a Flash game on the Internet. You really should be glad the staff has tolerance for inane nonsense like this.

My only advice for you is hop off the Internet, go to school, and help yourself by getting an actual education. You'll be better off

[jeff the hacker]

*massive amount of text*

i was about to say the same stuff like yours

but the only thing that was my weaknesses when i was playing with another player that threatens to report me for :
-not reseting ( "RESET OR I KICK" )
-im from another country ( "WTFLAGGER!" )
-killing them just once ( "wtf" *voted to kick me* )
-and more

---He messed up everything. Let me go down the line
1.The servers
2.The PPP System
3.The Community
4.Some of our precious old accounts were deleted
5.The Cali server
6.Competitiveness
7.Casual Fun

1-the servers wasnt created by him, coolbudy owns them
2.whats the problem here? you need to be active in ranked matches to keep it on or whatever
3.the community is "us" we predict our own toxicity ( correct me if im wrong )
4.you could of ask him for restoring your account that got wiped in database crash(es)
5.the staff member is still testing the server
( i cant answer 6 and 7, im not very smart, im no longer in junior high school )

btw, jdc55, dont poke at other people

[Kazy]

>complains about how trash this community is
>is still part of the community
>could leave at any time but creates posts like this instead

Excuse me.

[darkstar 1]

I recommend you using more neutral words (instead of this 'agressive' writing style) next time you're trying to point something out... Good luck with being taken serious.

[Dr Hell]

I do not mean to sound rude at all but, if you don't like this community, just keep quiet about it.

[Green Eyed Demon]

I'm not a fan of this game/community itself despite being here from the start but oh boy is this topic pathetic

Send me a link to the multiplayer game you're working on btw,I want to see that flawless masterpiece
Oh wait...

[jdc55]

The game's still trash. No need to be so butthurt. Just tell Eric to do better next time. No harm. Just piece.

[Green Eyed Demon]

The game's still trash. No need to be so butthurt. Just tell Eric to do better next time. No harm. Just piece.

The game is trash,that I agree with,you haven't brought any legit reasons as to why though,the wall of text that you pulled out of your arse doesn't indicate that,nobody's being butthurt and I'm sure Eric's not making games 24/7

[WolfMaster12]

In case you hate this community, why don't you retire from this game? It's really simple. And don't blame Eric for making this game. gl

[jdc55]

In case you hate this community, why don't you retire from this game? It's really simple. And don't blame Eric for making this game. gl

No one said I hated the community. I just think its trash. The game in general is trash. Lol Don't be so mad. If you aren't Eric Gurt, you have no reason to get so offended and butthurt. Go cry somewhere. Not everyone can take the truth.

[Dandamage]

JDC, you have the right to post a topic about the game itself, specially criticizing it and without offending anyone directly. Contrary to some people's belief, we actually like to take feedback and use it to push the game forward, including, of course, negative feedback like this one.

However, it must be pointed out that many of the arguments you typed in here are either simply untrue, avoidable by the players or map developers themselves, or simply not Eric's fault at all.

Let's pick a few examples: there is actually an engine mark that allows you to spawn with weapons. There is actually a way to enable ping limit. Eric does not own or is responsible for the maintenance of the server (that is with Coolbuddy and their deal with him), and of course, a bunch of other things Hikarikaze also mentioned and thankfully I don't have to type it all here.

About the less formal part of the complaints, such as giving staff and the community mocking names: that is not constructive at all, and while it is a way of criticizing, it will not really be taken seriously by many people, so it really does not mean much for us specially considering that you also must be able to take feedback on your own feedback such as counter-arguments. Basically things like this make you look bad:

If you aren't Eric Gurt, you have no reason to get so offended and butthurt. Go cry somewhere. Not everyone can take the truth.

Bottom line is that while you have the right to point out things that you think are wrong, you must also respect opposite opinions.

[DoomWrath]

Ever play PB2 and wonder to yourself, how trash is this game? I mean, its one of a kind. But that doesn't make it good. At all. I think we all know this game is pretty trash. But how trash? Mind if I jot down some details?

No, honestly not. When I play PB2 I usually am doing it to kill time or mess about. I personally don't play games I consider trash, and I think it's very odd you do.

1. Have you ever been in a game and shot someone, and they took absolutely 0 damage? That happens to me 65% of the time I play. No joke.

This is a known problem in PB2. It's also a problem with a huge range of games, it's just a symptom of playing over the internet. Delays and lag just happens, you have to live with it.

My preferred solutions:

1. Fire more than a single shot, or avoid matches that limit you to a single shot (EG sniper matches)

2. Play with a ping limit or players with a ping similar to your own. You'll then eat a similar amount of shots to each other.

2. Why exactly does this game have ping errors? When we get them, we pause mid-game without any consent, which you are kill-able in mid pause/ping error. I don't think any games has that?

This seems to be an issue with your connection, try running the game via a router and internet connection rather than a potato and a car radio.

Again, all games played over a network are prone to connection issues, mainly stemming from people's home networks causing lag in addition to the natural lag from connecting people over thousands of miles.

3. Have you ever just be playing, minding your own business, and someone kills you, but then you have to look for a weapon ON THE GROUND, but you get killed in the process of finding a weapon cause you're unarmed?

You are armed with swords, play on maps that have swords enabled. Play tactically, avoid players with better weapons than you. MP Gaming 101 right there.

4. It's simple.. The game takes no skill.. Period.

Why aren't you at the top of the Top 100 then? Are you saying you have so little skill that you can't even be competitive at a game that as you said requires no skill? It's not like you can say you don't have the time to do it either, since you're so often hanging around the forums shitposting.

5. Boy I tell you. These servers are god o mighty awful. Literally everyone lags like an ass on this game. There has never been so many amount of laggers in one game in Flash game history. I've never seen so many teleport and spike like that.

If I had a dollar for everyone who's mentioned that the servers aren't exactly great since 2011, I could put a new MP server in every country in the world.

Now we have new servers too. So moot point even?

6. Laggers have more advantage over non-laggers? Doesn't make any sense. A pro lagger can rek a Pro non-lagger anyday on this game. ALL YOU NEED IS AVERAGE INTERNET TO BE PRO ON THIS GAME. Make sure your ping is over 150. Instant 150k.

From my perspective, most Top 100 players have 90-120 ping. A better connection will be an advantage in any game that connects to the internet. This is very simple common knowledge and irrelevant to bring up here as it doesn't apply only to PB2.

7. Everybody left this game for one reason. I think you know that reason. I don't have to say it..

Enlighten me. I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. Enlighten me - because honestly I think you're a crock of shit.

8. This game has been alive for almost 6 years? And it's still in beta? What? 6 Years and we still don't have a sequel? What?

This game has been out for 6 years. Your current account has existed since 2015. At the least, you've been here ~2 years, and it's been 2 years yet you still don't have basic levels of reading comprehension? It is clearly stated that MULTIPLAYER is in beta state. Not PB2, not "this game". PB2 is fully released, MP is just a secondary feature - though a popular one at that.

9. One developer. I thought any developer was smart enough to hire an actual team.. Takes Eric 2 years, possibly 3 years to make a trashcan 2D Flash game remake? What?

PB2/PB2.5/PB3 is Eric's side project, not his real projects he does as his job. He does this in his spare time. Let me know when you've created a multiplayer browser game popular enough to reach 3+ million players registered.

Quit bashing shit for the sake of bashing shit, especially when it's something far beyond you.

10. He messed up everything. Let me go down the line
The servers
The PPP System
The Community
Some of our precious old accounts were deleted
The Cali server
Competitiveness
Casual Fun

The Servers - They've been up for a few days as of this post. You can't judge from that. The old servers, blame Coolbuddy for that one.

The PPP System - I agree that it's not a good system, neither was the old system

The Community - Entirely subjective, irrelevant point.

Accounts - Database flaw, could happen to anyone, irrelevant point

Cali Server - In what way is it "ruined"? Explain further.

Competitiveness - Entirely subjective, irrelevant point.

Casual Fun - Entirely subjective, irrelevant point.

How many years did it take to screw over one whole community? Right.. 6 Years I'm guessing? Tragic. And look at us. Still being Eric's little peasant stalking his twitter hoping he would say more than the games "16%" done. He told us he made new weapons and new grenades.. Did he show us? No... He didn't show the community who devoted all their time to his one little trashcan game for 6 years? I compare Eric to a Call Of Duty developer. Why? Cause technically they both have the brains of a P.. Not trying to be mean. Just stating the obvious.

And I'll state the obvious by telling you that you're an unwanted, immature, regressive, entirely unwelcome troll. You have the logical thought skills of a microwave, and you're ignorant hypocrite.

As I said before, "Let me know when you've created a multiplayer browser game popular enough to reach 3+ million players registered." If he has the brains of a "P..." and can do that, I imagine I could number your brain cells on one hand.

PS. I hope the crybaby staff lets me state my own opinion in a harmless way even though it makes Eric look like the real kind of developer he is.

I like how the "Crybaby Staff" aren't the ones creating topics the equivalent of a 3 year old wailing because they shat their pants. Knock it off.

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In case you hate this community, why don't you retire from this game? It's really simple. And don't blame Eric for making this game. gl

No one said I hated the community. I just think its trash. The game in general is trash. Lol Don't be so mad. If you aren't Eric Gurt, you have no reason to get so offended and butthurt. Go cry somewhere. Not everyone can take the truth.

WolfMaster has the right idea here. Plus, he's a member of the community and entitled to defend it as he sees right. Pretending your version of the "alternative truth" is reality is ignorant and ridiculous - as is calling someone "offended and butthurt" when they aren't the one creating a fanatical topic listing half-baked reasons why you don't like PB2.

As he said, if you don't like it, don't play it. The state of PB2 is the state it's going to remain in for the foreseeable future. Not everyone can take the truth

I'm not going to mute or ban you for this topic or its replies as I'd like to have a reasonable fact-based discussion about your real problems - if you're willing to drop the bullshit perhaps we can begin? Let me know.

[Fixer21]

I bet, reading this, as Eric himself, hurts a lot... won't say my opinion cause it doesn't matter anyway.

BUT

Whole community can always be against that, although, in same time - they can't handle it or admit that. Maybe it's not exacly like that, getting things ready, set up from the start, from the load of hate... is... actaully... really... hard.

[WolfMaster12]

In case you hate this community, why don't you retire from this game? It's really simple. And don't blame Eric for making this game. gl

No one said I hated the community. I just think its trash. The game in general is trash. Lol Don't be so mad. If you aren't Eric Gurt, you have no reason to get so offended and butthurt. Go cry somewhere. Not everyone can take the truth.

Firstly, how was I mad? Secondly, I don't get offended or butthurt by such criticism, I consider it ridiculous how you try to persuade people to leave PB2. Thirdly, in case you are going to criticise the community like you did right now, then it can definitely be considered as hate. Good luck retiring from PB2.

WolfMaster has the right idea here. Plus, she's a member of the community and entitled to defend it as she sees right. Pretending your version of the "alternative truth" is reality is ignorant and ridiculous - as is calling someone "offended and butthurt" when they aren't the one creating a fanatical topic listing half-baked reasons why you don't like PB2.

True.

[ShinyFord]

1. Have you ever been in a game and shot someone, and they took absolutely 0 damage? That happens to me 65% of the time I play. No joke.

R. And? Simply non-stop shooting them until they're dead. Oh don't stand like a bot shooting, move constantly to keep up with their movement. Eventually, you take down that player.
It's a common lag which you gotta deal with it cause not everyone can afford a good internet, even if they did. Their ping would still remain same. Reasons -

1.Close to the place where server hosted is, will result in your low ping while the opposite one will result in your high ping.
That's because the server has to receive your data which your router sends out. Kinda same way as the router near your computer but more advanced.
It's hard to explain that stuff but I'm sure everyone knows what I meant.
2. It depends on what type of internet you are using. Wifi or Wired. Wired is more stable since it's directly linked to your pc. If you are using wifi, you're more likely to face such problem.

Hikar has a point about your ignorance which gave me some good laugh.

2. Why exactly does this game have ping errors? When we get them, we pause mid-game without any consent, which you are kill-able in mid pause/ping error. I don't think any games has that?

R. It's normal to face these cause of reasons above. PB2 isn't the only one and there are other games which has similar condition but way worse. Example, your opponent stops moving till your lag ends, he teleports randomly around you and you die instantly without even realizing what happened.
Sigh, such ignorance.

3. Have you ever just be playing, minding your own business, and someone kills you, but then you have to look for a weapon ON THE GROUND, but you get killed in the process of finding a weapon cause you're unarmed?

R. Seems that you have never played campaign. It has such situations like that. Your brain exists for a reason. That's right, to find a way to get your butt out of the chaos battle. Don't just walk. Jump quickly or move sneakily. Make use of the environment around you. You can use your sword too. Like others said, try to play smartly instead of being a robot who happily gives away free kill to others. That will help you survive better.

4. It's simple.. The game takes no skill.. Period.

R. What? No skill? Then why did you complain about being killed while trying to pick up a gun just cause you're unarmed?
Much ignorance.

5. Boy I tell you. These servers are god o mighty awful. Literally everyone lags like an ass on this game. There has never been so many amount of laggers in one game in Flash game history. I've never seen so many teleport and spike like that.

R. Not really Eric's fault neither relevant. Others said what I wanted to say.

6. Laggers have more advantage over non-laggers? Doesn't make any sense. A pro lagger can rek a Pro non-lagger anyday on this game. ALL YOU NEED IS AVERAGE INTERNET TO BE PRO ON THIS GAME. Make sure your ping is over 150. Instant 150k.

R. How does that not make any sense? Where is your common sense? You do realise that the players with low ping tend to get hit easily because they don't teleport like others said.

7. Everybody left this game for one reason. I think you know that reason. I don't have to say it..

R. Mind telling that reason?

8. This game has been alive for almost 6 years? And it's still in beta? What? 6 Years and we still don't have a sequel? What?

R. Others said what I wanted to say. You just messed your head with this random question.

9. One developer. I thought any developer was smart enough to hire an actual team.. Takes Eric 2 years, possibly 3 years to make a trashcan 2D Flash game remake? What?

R. Hey, why not making one too? Oh right, you'll just rage quit before it even happens.

10. R. Points already taken, so I don't have much to say.

The game's still trash. No need to be so butthurt. Just tell Eric to do better next time. No harm. Just piece.

Who made this topic then? Who posted irrelevant reasons then? It's you and you're the one who's butthurt.

In case you hate this community, why don't you retire from this game? It's really simple. And don't blame Eric for making this game. gl

No one said I hated the community. I just think its trash. The game in general is trash. Lol Don't be so mad. If you aren't Eric Gurt, you have no reason to get so offended and butthurt. Go cry somewhere. Not everyone can take the truth.

Again, the post is pointing at you instead of us, therefore I'd advise you to think twice about yourself before replying, considering the way you write.
And of course, you have the right to speak here but this doesn't mean you have to be aggressive at others posting their opposing opinion. Honestly, it's sad to see how ignorant you've became.

The door is right here and you are free to go outside. Trust me, it's better to do that than posting your argument which got countered by another so easily and digging your own grave by throwing ignorant replies at us.

Still, you have my thanks for giving me a good laugh.

[Ramires_]

JDC is a hater of PB2 and it's community. He nuked PCL chat cus he dont want us to be successful. Don't listen to this mans and go on with your day )

papa bless cuz

[jdc55]

The game is still trash. Sorry if you can't accept the truth. :/ Dab

[darkstar 1]

The game is still trash. Sorry if you can't accept the truth. :/ Dab

So, if the game is such trash, like you constantly say, then why are you still here, why do you still take the effort to post such things if the game is trash? There is literally no point in posting this here since most people here do like the game and (almost) all those who hate it left :/
(And you are not exactly telling the truth, since that is just an opinion.)

[jdc55]

The game is still trash. Sorry if you can't accept the truth. :/ Dab

So, if the game is such trash, like you constantly say, then why are you still here, why do you still take the effort to post such things if the game is trash? There is literally no point in posting this here since most people here do like the game and (almost) all those who hate it left :/
(And you are not exactly telling the truth, since that is just an opinion.)

Cause I wanna be here. And yes. I am telling the truth. Most trash game I've ever seen. Sorry if your feelings are hurt.